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3-Year-Old Claims To Remember Who Killed Him In Past Life, Leads Police To Body

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In his book, “Children Who Have Lived Before: Reincarnation today,” German therapist Trutz Hardo shares extraordinary case studies of children from around the world who remember details of their past lives. One child in the Golan Heights, a region near the border of Syria and Israel, has a tale that will give you goosebumps.

A three-year-old of the Druze ethnic group, a group of people for whom reincarnation is a core belief, told his elders that he knew what had happened to him in his past life: He was murdered. The boy, whose story was documented by Dr. Eli Lasch and then told to Hardo, was born with a long, red birthmark on his head. For the Druse birthmarks like these are an indication of death wounds, says Hardo, and children born with them are paid close attention to for anything they may remember of their past lives.

“As soon as a child is born its body is searched for birthmarks, since they are convinced that these stem from death wounds, which were received in a past life,” Hardo writes.

 

If such marks are found on a child they try to discover something from his or her past life as soon as the child is able to speak in order to get the first clues to the circumstances of his or her former death.”

Once this particular child turned three and could speak, he told his elders that he was killed by an axe blow to the head. He was led through villages to see if he could remember where he lived, until he came to one that seemed familiar to him. The child said he remembered both the first and last name of his killer with complete clarity.

Hardo writes that the boy confronted a man he’d never met but knowing his full name, claiming him to be the murderer.

“Suddenly the boy walked up to a man and said, “Aren’t you … (Eli [Lasch] forgot the name)?” The man answered yes. Then the boy said, “I used to be your neighbour. We had a fight and you killed me with an axe.” Eli told me how the man had suddenly gone white as a sheet. The three-year-old boy then said, “I even know where he buried my body.”

Lo and behold, the boy led the elders to the exact spot, a pile of stones, under which there lay a buried body. The buried man’s skull showed a split in the front. The boy also led the group to the spot where the axe was buried, forcing the accused killer to eventually confess his crime.

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melissa1998
melissa1998

The only problem with this story is the lack of evidence it has to it. If we want to believe this story then we have to take Lasch's word for it. Since there has been no further research on this case we cannot say whether it is a true story or not. We don't even know and of the details such as the Boy's name, the name of the dead person or the name of the murderer. There is also a lack of witnesses so therefore, there is no way of falsifying the story or even for someone to back up the claims given by the Doctor.

moreclicks
moreclicks

Strange events in this world.  Isn't it any more difficult to believe we are here more than once...than to accept our

precent existence? Who really knows?  Often those "ghosts" or reincarnation subjects have had traumatic deaths, it's said that the electrical force remains.  Many stores about ghosts at Gettysburg battlefield.

Suggest you might read Twenty Cases suggestive of Reincarnation by Dr. Ian Stevenson written many years ago. Not in a sensational type presentation, but a scientific study. Some interesting cases profiled.

ChadPoelman
ChadPoelman

Thing is we are a getting at least a third hand account of this.  We don't know if the story had changed over time, or if everyone involved was being honest, or if it was recounted accurately in the retelling.  This is at best an interesting story, but there are far too many holes for this to be considered evidence of anything. 

AndrewAbad
AndrewAbad

just my theory.  some say when they die they go to some sort of path and meet god , then god throws them off to earth again and thus reborn. why where they reborn? mostly all of the reincarnated people speak of tragedy of their past lives . maybe God was thinking that life was took from them and God said that we have no right to kill. so maybe God had given them a chance to fulfill their god given destiny or if not (mostly because of free will), relive a life again that was taken from them 

SueKelly2
SueKelly2

I am fascinated by this subject as I came to a similar 'belief' of my own many years ago when the 'dying rooms' were exposed (China's slow and systematic slaughter of mainly baby girls). I was so distraught by the issue that I concluded that we must be sent here to earth in order to either learn something or to teach something. In my mind, those who suffer so horribly are sent here to learn humility or maybe how to suffer without retaliation. I can't expand further as I have no theoretical knowledge of the subject - it was just the only way that I could rationalise my simple and easy existence while these innocents were starved to death. It is very reassuring to find that maybe I had a glimpse of a memory which referred me to what could possibly be the ultimate truth. I certainly believe that organised religion has caused more trouble and death/hardship/witch-hunts etc than anything else in the world. And yes, Dave Allen was right when he talked of a particular religious group sitting in a corner in heaven and crying as they had just found out that they weren't the only ones there!  :-)

yhawit
yhawit

How would the kid know where the body and axe were buried? That must've meant that his soul or spirit, or whatever, watched the murder after death, meaning maybe he never left the physical plane before reincarnating and hence why he retained his memory :P 

amadhatter53
amadhatter53

@Witchy Mama I mean no disrespect by the following queries, rather  I'm just curious what you have to say about a few issues. If we assume reincarnation is real, how would you or anyone else know anything about how  it works?  Is this going to turn into people saying not only do they remember past lives, but they remember waiting around for the new one?  Additionally, where would the soul go if it has a down period between lives, and how would it reassignment be determined? God, karma, or some kind of committee of higher powers?


A problem I see with reincarnation is it predicated on that souls are only recycled instead of new ones being created. In the last several thousand years the world populace has increased exponentially, hence new souls being created would be required.  


One last question.  Are only human beings supposedly reincarnated?  If so, what happens to all other the other life forms that coexist with people on Earth?   I suppose that would also answer whether or not humans are only reborn again as humans. 


Forgive my skepticism, but I can't understand how anyone could believe something as an absolute, especially when there is literally nothing but vague anecdotes to back it up, without a single instance demonstrating something more concrete. 

shirleyis
shirleyis

@amadhatter53 Interesting story...interesting to note about the birthmarks....I had a friends who had bad migraine headaches but doctors couldn't find anything physically that was causing them. One day he was told by someone who soul traveled and saw his past lives that like in this live, he has always been a great warrior (he had served in Vietnam and received numerous medals) but back during the days of the Crusades, during battle, he was hit on the head with a mace and to this day, carries the pain of that event. When I was young, I used to wonder why it was that some people were born with physical handicaps or other disabling problems...after learning about previous lives, I came to understand that some circumstances from previous lives haven't been resolved and therefore carry into their present lives. And when I hear the phrase that "all men are created equal", I believe that perhaps it needs to be clarified that all men are created on an equal basis (depending on one's karma and therefore, one's dharma ).

The Lords of Dharma (the Judges) are the ones responsible for viewing your good deeds and your dirty deeds everything done has a price and ignorance is no excuse.  These Lords sit at a round table (because they are all equal...no one sits at the head of the table) and wear the white raiment of soul (I know this because I have died before in this life and encountered them (what scientists call NDE.  They spoke, but no mouths moved. 

All life has soul....all animal (including humans), vegetation (plants) , and minerals (which is why some minerals are used for healing and the story of why diamonds are used for wedding rings is quite interesting).  During my soul travels, trees and rocks in my driveway have talked with me. (These are very good "watchdogs and can tell you who has been there while you weren't home and they can tell you who has ill intent)

Souls come (and return) from the great powerhouse we refer to as "God" (a massive collective of pure energy that shines intense blinding white light that has full consciousness and is omniscient (all seeing), omnipotent (all powerful) and omnipresent (present everywhere)   .  We, as soul are a collective, all a part of It as a whole. Soul is that which is made in the image of God that we all have and with that also have those three qualities 8.

Without God-knowledge and enlightenment, it is very difficult for soul to escape the Wheel of 84, also known as the Wheel of Awegawan.  This is the cycle of birth, death and rebirth a trap that buries soul deeper and deeper to forget where it came from and why it Is.   Baraka Bashad (May the Blessings Be) ☼.

Witchy Mama
Witchy Mama

@amadhatter53 No, no, I’m happy to answer the questions you’ve asked. But please keep in mind, I can only give my own personal perspective and not everyone who believes in reincarnation will agree with what I say here.


First, you’re right about world population, which is why I think that new souls do have to be created to keep up with our spectacular ability to breed. And that’s why (again, personal opinion) there is so much evil in the world. A new/young soul will be selfish and cruel because it has not developed a moral compass. Each life we live is meant to teach us something. So every time a soul is reincarnated, it has gained something that was lacking before. But in order to use the knowledge gained from previous life lessons, we have to retain a little bit of memory from those times. Some people remember quite a bit, and others only experience the occasional déjà vu.


I also believe that animals have souls as well and get included in the reincarnation process. I know there are many people who believe in reincarnation that say they remember living lives as animals. Honestly, I don’t know where I stand on that one. ~shrug~


Does that help at all?


shirleyis
shirleyis

@Witchy Mama @shirleyis No..it is a way of life that has been here before any religion...as a matter of fact all religions stem from it. In the course of my NDE my "guardian angel" or spiritual guide asked me if I had any questions.  So I asked "what is the true religion?"  He told me "There is no true religion...religion is man-made".  I retained conscious awareness of a few times prior to then that were spiritual voyages, but a lot of the names of things were foreign to me and I had nothing around me to relate to and keep in my conscious memory.  A few years after that, I came upon the ancient way of life that wasn't a religion and wasn't a science, it just is.  This is the way that all great avatars (which religions were built upon) and saints found their path home.   To advance in ascension, soul must master the plane it is currently learning about (which begins with the plane the physical body resides in).  There is a Holy Book on every plane that is in the guardianship care of a Master of that plane.  These are open for any true heart/soul to study. The guardian knows from one glance of you if you are meant to study it- they can tell from your vibratory rate..  The higher one's vibratory rate, the more disciplined (focused/undistracted-uncluttered with less thought and baggage), hence purer and closer to The Source   There are 2 holy books  (Shariyat Ki Sugmad) for the physical  plane.  The language most is referenced with is Sanskrit - it is the first language all other languages grew from this language and many still have words that can be referenced back to Sanskrit (like "human"  a compound word meaning God Mind.  Although Sanskrit literally translates "without writing" it was the first written language on earth.  Rama was the 1st master to teach the way The Hindu's adapted his teachings, but then deviated from it inserting their own dogma and creed and ritual (as all religions do)  Guru Nanak (The Sikh religion adapted him as it's founder) was the first to make written reference of the way in his poetry.  The first words written were verbally pronounced "Ek Onkar" meaning "God Is One"  This way is an esoteric wisdom passed down through the ages via one on one in the physical, master to chela and via sou travel:l soul to soul teachings, Mahanta (great soul the living GodMan on Earth, the current torchbearer, and Acolyte).  It's said that there is no other published writings referencing this way of life until 1966 when Paul Twichell publiched a series of books. However, I remember reading a comic book referencing this way in a master/disciple story line in 1961 or '62 (when I was 8 or 9).  The true path is learned via soul (They've also, since Paul Twitchell's passing, formed a religion from what he brought to print-and yes, they too have deviated). All of what I've learned has come from soul travels with the Master...and oddly enough, in some form or another, the next day I would have an actual physical reference that I would come upon in writing to instill the memory to my conscious awareness.  (Sorry I didn't mean to carry on so long but I detected an interest.  - don't get me started....hhahaahh ) 

Baraka Bashad (May The Blessings Be)  ☼

pradip_26
pradip_26

@amadhatter53 The spiritual texts referred in the India have some explanations to your questions but it just provides a logical base. Actual details is difficult to be verified since there is no physical evidence on this. Regarding reassignment, the texts do mention that the mind impressions of the earlier birth at the time of death do to a high degree decide the next assignment. Also linkages with other people , locations , habits have a role too. I also somewhat agree with this since I have had some sort of experiences which have brought out interests which I did not have in my childhood. Again regarding the committe etc, it is difficult for anyone to give a confirmed answer since we do not have evidences. Animals, humans etc all get reincarnated is what the texts indicate.

dolores70
dolores70

@amadhatter53 If you read Journey of Souls by  Michaal Newton you will find all your answers.

amadhatter53
amadhatter53

Just curious - how many reincarnation exist concurrently with an afterlife? Just because they are both fictitious inventions doesn't make them any less mutually exclusive.  You can't  have a soul go to an afterlife upon death and have it reborn as well.  Pick a fantasy people.

Witchy Mama
Witchy Mama

@amadhatter53 Afterlife simply means that the soul continues to exist even after bodily death. Think of it as recycling. Before an old glass container can be made into a new one it has to go to a recycling center for processing. Reincarnation isn't instantaneous. The soul has to go somewhere before being reassigned.

amadhatter53
amadhatter53

@Witchy Mama I mean no disrespect by the following queries, rather  I'm just curious what you have to say about a few issues. If we assume reincarnation is real, how would you or anyone else know anything about how  it works?  Is this going to turn into people saying not only do they remember past lives, but they remember waiting around for the new one?  Additionally, where would the soul go if it has a down period between lives, and how would it reassignment be determined? God, karma, or some kind of committee of higher powers?


A problem I see with reincarnation is it predicated on that souls are only recycled instead of new ones being created. In the last several thousand years the world populace has increased exponentially, hence new souls being created would be required.  


One last question.  Are only human beings supposedly reincarnated?  If so, what happens to all other the other life forms that coexist with people on Earth?   I suppose that would also answer whether or not humans are only reborn again as humans. 


Forgive my skepticism, but I can't understand how anyone could believe something as an absolute, especially when there is literally nothing but vague anecdotes to back it up, without a single instance demonstrating something more concrete.  

DeniseMcconnell
DeniseMcconnell

come on guys,  it;s on the internet, it has to be true!!!!!  lol 

VadimLane
VadimLane

@DeniseMcconnell just because you don't think it true it doesn't mean It can't be true. and Just because it's on the internet it doesn't mean it's not true. There are False and Factual thing on the internet. It is not all a lie or the truth.


JustinRobertson
JustinRobertson

Trutz Hardo is a well known nut job and pretty much a Nazi.

BillySymes
BillySymes

Has nothing to do with this story but when my boy was very young we were in a cab and a fast car raced by, he showed great interest and started talking about when he was a teenager.  Given the fact that he was only 3 at this time I found this quite interesting, he continued to talk about a GTO said it was blue and very fast and all the girls liked it but he got in trouble from the cops and his dad cause it was so fast. At this time I said Billy I am your dad and I am not mad what are you talking about, and the little boy just shook his head and I have never been able to get him to talk about it since. 

justiceismybtch
justiceismybtch

The doctor who relayed this incredible tale "forgot" the name of the murderer?  How "convenient," since it leaves no way to fact-check the "truth" of this story.  Also, If the boy was killed with an axe in his previous life, how would his former self have known where the murder weapon was hidden after his death? Amazing what people will believe just because it is a group of sentences presented under an unverified "news" site.

aBigPurpleDiamond
aBigPurpleDiamond

@justiceismybtch He would have known because when many people die they hang around a few minutes looking at their bodies or "visiting" important people in their lives. My brother in law whispered to me,"I'm gone" about 2 hours later I got the call.

HELL All Night
HELL All Night

I have more proof of my case then this article has available. www.searchingforjusticeandpeace.com


MichelleLilly
MichelleLilly

Where is the actual police report of a body being found by a boy..? It would be public record.

goteamben
goteamben

@MichelleLilly Well, unfortunately, that isn't going to happen.  The source for this article is a book that was published 15 years ago, by someone who once spoke to someone who claimed to have witnessed the events.  There is no other record of the meeting.


The person who claimed to have witnessed the event, Dr Eli Lasch, made a very handsome living as a spiritual healer, and also became something of a tv & print celebrity, pedalling his treatments.


So what we have here is an internet story, based on an old book which is based on a conversation the author had with someone who had a significant financial interest in making up this kind of crap.  


I think the police report (or even a record of the boy's name) might be a long time coming!

etsahodges
etsahodges

If this story is true. Reincarnation is real. active imaginations and parental programming could not lead this boy to his body. So dont say stupid things like that

diss1
diss1

what an absolute load of bollocks

MichelleLilly
MichelleLilly

@MarieBirkett @pineapplechunk @diss1 I respect your "beliefs", Marie, but where are the facts? Enough of this "believing" I want facts. Police reports of a boy finding a body, etc. Nothing. Just "This is what happened and it says so in a book", sounds a bit familiar.. But there are no facts or scientific evidence to back up this story.

MichelleLilly
MichelleLilly

@MarieBirkett @MichelleLilly @pineapplechunk @diss1 You have no proof. Proof requires physical evidence that you can present to a Scientist for analyzing. Anything you cannot provide someone with proof/evidence is all in your mind, fiction, belief, imagination.. Until proven factual by one person to another. A story book only has stories in it. Even Non-Fiction books are full of fabrication. A simple exaggeration is a lie.

goteamben
goteamben

@MarieBirkett @MichelleLilly @pineapplechunk @diss1 You 'know' that reincarnation exits in the same way that Christians 'know' that God exists, or in the same way that a Muslim martyr knows that there's going to be a heap of virgins waiting for him in heaven.


I'm not sure where you get your own 'personal proof' from, but I doubt it would stand up to any sort of scrutiny.  I'd be interested to hear what this proof was, though.

goteamben
goteamben

@MarieBirkett @goteamben @MichelleLilly @pineapplechunk @diss1


You've accused people in the comments section of being close-minded and blinkered, yet (a) you wont share your proof with anyone, and (b) you've confirmed that nothing could ever dissuade you from your points of view (near enough the definition of close-minded!


From the fact that you wont share, that it's clearly such a personal matter and you've clearly put all your faith in it, I'd be willing to be you've gone through a personal tragedy and have found comfort in your new belief.  i just hope you didn't pay anyone money to be given your 'proof'.

goteamben
goteamben

@MarieBirkett @goteamben @MichelleLilly @pineapplechunk @diss1

It is times of loss are when people generally turn to some sort of supernatural comfort; the problem is that they all say they have 'proof' of their particular belief - but some people's beliefs contradict other peoples.


If you came across someone on the internet who said they had a 'personal proof' of some form of afterlife which did not fit in with your beliefs, and for which they offered no evidence, would you believe them?


And how about the story in the article?  To repeat, it is an article based on a 15 year old book, in which the author recounts a story that someone once told him (the person who told the author the story made a handsome living out of practising spiritual healing).  There is no other recorded account of the events in the story; so, do you believe the events in the article happened?  Or do you agree that it is reasonable to be skeptical?

thebrandedman
thebrandedman

@MichelleLilly She's probably got dementia. I'd just give up. Her mind was made up, then it was shot. There's no recovering for her.

JadeKitten1985
JadeKitten1985

@diss1  why? Many people have memories of something that was from another lifetime. people can believe a one so almighty GOD can be real and jesus was born from a virgin and we go to heaven but the thought of us being reborn isn't plausible? Being reborn makes more sense then going to heaven. Being one with mother earth makes more sense than a god you cant see that supposedly told a person to write a book of stories and whats right an wrong and you will either go to heaven or hell

diss1
diss1

@JadeKitten1985 "Many people have memories of something that was from another lifetime". no, they don't. they might believe they do, but that's not the same thing.


this story is exactly as plausible as the God of the Christian religion, in that there's no evidence for either of them

diss1
diss1

@MarieBirkett believing in nonsense ain't worth it, Ms Birkett (to me. if it works for you, go ahead, work it)

NaziPedo
NaziPedo

@MarieBirkett @diss1 The guy who wrote that story also wrote about how all the Jews in the Holocaust deserved their fates because of Karma. Do you agree with that too? 

Witchy Mama
Witchy Mama

Holy crap, people. Stop being jerks. If someone asks a question about how faith works and then another someone does their best to try to answer the question, that's not an open invitation to start attacking their beliefs. If you think that after we die we merely become fertilizer and nothing more, then fine. But don't assume that those of us that think there might still be something beyond death are stupid. That's rude.

goteamben
goteamben

I'm afraid I think belief in an afterlife actually is a stupid belief to hold, but if you examined all of my beliefs I'm sure you'd find plenty of stupid in those too. All people, regardless of their intellect, probably hold some stupid beliefs.

I would like Marie to confirm whether or not she thinks it's reasonable to be sceptical about the actuall story, though. I actually do think that if someone is happy to take the story as fact, given its source, then that certainly is evidence of a less than average intellect!

And it's not as if recognising this story to be bullshit would actually undermine anyone's beliefs anyway!

Dementia comment was completely out of order btw.

goteamben
goteamben

@MarieBir @goteamben  Marie you have just linked everyone to the exact same account that everyone has been discussing for the last year!!!! It is not Lasch's account, it is someone giving an account of a story he alleges Lasch once told him. 


I give up with you; you haven't taken in a word anyone else has said in the year since this article was posted.


And as has been said before, there's proofs for all sorts of crap on google, which is why critical thought needs to be applied to stuff you read on the internet.




goteamben
goteamben

@MarieBir @goteamben


Marie, you do appear to have provided a link to the source we've all been discussing for the last year!  Once again; the article on this website is based on a extract from a book (which you've just provided a link to), which is based on the author's account of what he says the Eli Lasch once said to him.  This is the only account of the story that existed before website like this one started releasing articles based on it.


As others have pointed out, the author has some fairly controversial views about jews and the holocaust, and Eli Lasch himself made a very handsome living out of peddaling his spiritual beliefs.


And even if I were to accept your first hand accounts as 100% correct, they don't appear to be anything to do with reincarnation?


As for "there's a lot of proof on google" - there's a whole heap of "proof" for a whole lot of shit on google.  Its amazing the amount of people who believe that our world leaders are actually shape shifting space lizards, ; and all because of proof they read on the internet.



obecksiyke
obecksiyke

The Power of imagination is one aspect of humans that is endless.

goteamben
goteamben

@MarieBirkett - then please, enlighten us.


Its amazing how people of all sorts of belief systems have so much evidence for their seemingly conflicting beliefs.  It's almost as if most (or all) of them are being duped!


Out of interest, if a Christian told you they'd had a near death experience, had seen the pearly gates and has been told categorically by St Peter that reincarnation was a load of nonsense, what would you say to that person?

MichelleLilly
MichelleLilly

That is not proof. You have a weak and gullible little mind.

MichelleLilly
MichelleLilly

@MarieBirkett @MichelleLilly @goteamben "My Child" Spoken like a true delusional moron. Get over yourself you old bag.You don't know anything about spiritualism and you wont ever know Science because your mind is shut off from reality. You worship fairytales.. You're a very sad and pathetic waste.

goteamben
goteamben

Hmmm, did someone delete my comment? Long and short, this has been debunked. His dad took him to a flight museum, which is when he got really into the planes and started having the nightmares.

The rest of it is essentially made up by his parents, they ask a child, called James, what his name is - he replies 'James' and , instead of accepting it at face value, his dad goes off to find a dead pilot called James and tells his son that was him in a past life! Mental.

his dad then found out what plane James Hudson used to fly and James jnr agreed this was his plane......then his dad found out he was wrong and James Hudson flew a different kind of plane, so they've now changed their story!

Basically, a kid has something odd and his parents have gone out of their way to research a fantasy world and implanted all of these 'facts' in James Jnr's head...shame they weren't always accurate!